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13 July 2021
In Pittsburgh we hardly think about box elder (Acer negundo). It’s a native tree that grows by the river. No one plants it. It’s not a “bad” tree. So I was puzzled by this 1950’s story from my mother.
I never hear of box elder that I don’t think of your grandfather. He never had a bad word to say about anyone. He was a man of integrity and the absolute worst thing I ever heard him say was [this] about a member of the town council: “He was the kind of man who would plant box elder.”
— 1950’s family anecdote from my mother
My grandfather lived in a village in suburban Chicago in the heart of the Midwest where box elder is considered bad, ugly, weedy and invasive. Wikipedia provides this insight on how it got a bad reputation:
“After World War II, box elder’s rapid growth made it a popular landscaping tree in suburban housing developments despite its poor form, vulnerability to storm damage, and tendency to attract large numbers of box elder bugs. … It can quickly colonize both cultivated and uncultivated areas. … It grows around houses and in hedges, as well as on disturbed ground and vacant lots.”
In Wisconsin box elder is so disdained that the Urban Ecology Center wrote a blog in defense of it: Native Tree Spotlight: In Defense of Box Elder.
Box elder isn’t invasive in Pittsburgh so I had to go look for it on its home turf at Duck Hollow. There I found that as a shade tree it can look pretty good. This one is two box elder trunks intertwined.
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However some of them die back leaving ugly bare branches at the top.
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And if you cut box elder or chop it down it grows suckers from every crevice.
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Midwesterners agree that box elder is bad. Why don’t Pittsburghers have this aversion? I think it’s because we are on the eastern edge of box elder’s range, we never planted it as a street tree, and it isn’t particularly invasive here.
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What is invasive here? Japanese knotweed! Originally planted as an ornamental, we don’t think it’s pretty anymore.
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If my grandfather had lived in Pittsburgh perhaps he would have said “He was the kind of man who would plant Japanese knotweed.”
Aha. Now I get it.
p.s. Later this summer box elder bugs will appear though not in huge numbers at Duck Hollow.
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p.p.s. Did you know there’s a Box Elder County in Utah named for the abundant trees?
(photo at top by Tom DeGomez, University of Arizona, Bugwood.org, remaining photos by Kate St. John and John English)
Young box elder – just sprouting – looks a lot like Poison Ivy. Be careful when pulling that it is actually Box Elder and not Poison Ivy. A mistake could cause lots of grief
Wow!
There are 285 species of Lepidoptera (moths and butterflies) that depend on box elder to survive their caterpillar stage.
From the urban forester article.
Thank you.
Another box elder story from my mother: My Uncle George lived in Stowe, VT where box elders sprouted right next to the foundation of his house. He cut them back over and over but the stubs sprouted prolifically. And they were ugly.
We just had an enormous Box Elder cut down in our back yard. It’s trunk was a 17’ circumference. It had three huge leads over our house. It was magnificent and a fun climbing tree for my children. A wonderful shade tree but it had to be done. Every storm that passed over with high winds I would just hope and pray it didn’t drop on my house. It really was a sight to behold and towered over every tree in my town.
I have a box elder growing under a yew by the steps. I’ve been cutting it for 30 years when it starts to invade the steps and it comes back every year.
I have lots of box elder here in Washington County. I leave it alone unless it gets in my way. The bugs it attracts feed the birds and I am good with that!!
My brother feels the same way about black locust. It’s not the most attractive tree, especially when it is growing in a fairly heavily wooded area where it only has branches at the top, but I love the flowers.
Black Locust, a member of the pea family, fixes the nitrogen in the soil and makes it available for other trees and plants.
I was surprised the last time I was in Colorado how common Box Elder is there. I didn’t check the range of the tree at the time so I was unaware how far west it ranges. It’s quite widespread there.
What about Silver Maple? It too grows along the rivers but where I grew up it seemed to be planted in backyards commonly. It was in my yard before I was born and my parents told me they had theirs cut down and due to rot. I still see it in backyards in older neighborhoods in the Pittsburgh area. I wonder if it was a desired landscape tree back in the 1940s and 1950s or prior. At my childhood home a neighbor had two and they were impressively enormous. They towered over the homeowner’s three story house. They attracted almost any passing bird.
Mike, my mother pointed out that silver maple was the quick-growing tree of choice in Pittsburgh. When I looked for box elders at Duck Hollow I found more silver maples than box elders. Aha!
We still have a very large Silver Maple in our yard. They seem to have a much more attractive look than Boxelder do, which I assume is why they’re still pretty common, whereas you rarely see Boxelder in yards anymore.
I’ve heard people online make a lot of negative claims about them. That they have weak wood, hollow out, are dirty trees, etc. Only really common problems I’ve seen is their shallow roots can lift sidewalks and the trees can die back sometimes leaving large dead branches. However, of the hundreds of thousands that are still standing here most of them look to be in great shape.
I have a bit of a bias though, as I quite like Silver Maples. The way the leaves shimmer in the wind, as well as the shaggy bark are quite unique. And no two trees will ever look the same. (As an aside the leaves make great lawn and garden compost)
Hungary seems like they were quite taken with Boxelder. If you go into Google Streetview in Budapest they planted a lot of them there along their streets. they seem to take advantage of the tree’s habit of sending out many shoots when the tree is pollarded, as that’s the way most of them seem to be maintained.
Its an underrated tree I think. One thing I really like aesthetically is that on many of them the trunk can become very gnarled as they age. It gives it a very ancient look even if the tree isn’t that old.
I live next to a field and there is a Box Elder in it right next to my fence. Box Elder Beetle’s eggs hatch in only 2 days, so it doesn’t take long to get a huge infestation of them. Some years my entire fence by the tree will be completely covered with them, it is almost surreal. When they bore into the Box Elder they secrete a chemical that attracts ants and wasps and that tree always seems to be covered with them. I want to cut it down, but it isn’t on my property, I have asked the owner of the land to, but they ignore me. But apparently, reading these posts, they are so invasive they will just send out a ton of suckers and come back. There are several species here considered invasive and you can’t plant them, such as Tree of Heaven, Cottonwood, Box Elder, etc. Unfortunately, you can’t force someone to remove one from a field since it probably grew there naturally.
Out on the prairie, you can find huge swarms of box elder bugs on the sides of buildings, large rocks, or even just a south facing slope. There may not be trees of any species for many miles around, but there are still box elder bugs.
Like box elder, silver maple is a fast growing tree.
Here in North Dakota, there are not many other maple trees, other than a few silver maple. Since it is a member of the maple family, some people tap box elders to make syrup. It tastes like maple syrup with a little molasses mixes in.
Hello,
would it be possible to get the image of the box elder that sprouts from the tall stump for a educational project in our botanic garden in Italy?
Karin